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That's fine. I just don't see how anyone can call a 100bhp bike or thereabouts underpowered.
In simple terms, power to weight ratio. I am a pretty big guy. In riding gear I am probably at 300 pounds. When I am on my 890 it probably feels to me, like a lighter person does on a 790. I don't care about super high top speed. I have other bikes for that. I just wanted a bike that would have a lot of usable power and be quick in the speed ranges where I use it the most, 0-100mph. That is why I bought the 890 over the 1290. The 1290 only really starts to be much quicker for me when above about 80-90 mph. In that range my Z H2 is quicker than the 1290 so no point considering it.

I think about 100 HP makes for about the right amount of power for the street for 90% of the riding I do. I don't care about top speed much any more as the laws are such that if I exercise that capability on the street I risk losing my license for a long time. Sure I can get away with a quick blast up to maybe 140-150 on my other bikes as I get there so quickly but I immediately have to let off as the risk becomes too great of a ticket.

The 2 most fun to bikes I have to ride on a daily basis both have about 100 HP and are more similar than I thought they would be; 890R and 2020 Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT. They both are parallel twins, have very good midrange power, good suspension, comfortable ergos and pretty quick though not superbike quick/fast. And with both of them, I didn't like their smaller motored variants. When I rode the 790, I wanted more power. I had the 1000cc version of the Africa Twin and always felt I needed/wanted a bit more punch. I bought the 1100cc version and now it so much better for me and it is actually quicker than my 890 in a 0-60 sprint.

If someone can pick up a 790 cheap, then it could be a great value. When I bought my 890, there wasn't a huge difference in price and when I factored in all the things I would need to do to make it close to the 890, it would have ended up costing a lot more money and I would have a bike with basically no warranty. I learned a long time ago it is better to spend the extra money up front to buy what I want, than to buy something and do a lot of mods to get it where I want. The exception to that rule for me is if I can do an ECU reflash and unlock a lot more power on my turbo cars or how you can easily bump up the power on the H2 Kawis.
 
WavShrdr. Did you put springs on your 890 for your weight? I hate an undersprung bike. I’m 260.
I exchanged email with a WP service center in PA. that was recommended by WP USA.

His comments
WP only offers +/- 1 spring rate from stock for the OEM 890 Duke R fork & shock.
  • Though you may need +2 rates over stock for your 260# weight, we are limited on what rates are available to a degree. If you plan on street only riding (no track days), +1 rate should be good.
  • Fork:
    • Stock rate is 7.5n
    • Optional +1 rate is 8.5n
      • They are in stock @ WP US warehouse, retail $135-
      • The fork cap tool is $58-
  • Shock:
    • Stock rate is 150n
    • Optional +1 rate is 162n
      • You could use a 170n in my opinion, but they don’t make one in the OEM length of 195mm.
      • However, I can retrofit a 185mm length spring in the 170n if you want to send the shock here for the swap. The custom spring fit is not something that is easily DIY.
      • You will also need a dealer or suspension shop to help with a spring compression for the spring swap, this tool is too expensive to quote. Again, we can assist with this if you decide to send the shock in for the spring swap.
      • Both the 162n x 195 and the 170n x 185mm springs are in stock at US warehouse, retail $185-
 
In simple terms, power to weight ratio. I am a pretty big guy. In riding gear I am probably at 300 pounds. When I am on my 890 it probably feels to me, like a lighter person does on a 790. I don't care about super high top speed. I have other bikes for that. I just wanted a bike that would have a lot of usable power and be quick in the speed ranges where I use it the most, 0-100mph. That is why I bought the 890 over the 1290. The 1290 only really starts to be much quicker for me when above about 80-90 mph. In that range my Z H2 is quicker than the 1290 so no point considering it.

I think about 100 HP makes for about the right amount of power for the street for 90% of the riding I do. I don't care about top speed much any more as the laws are such that if I exercise that capability on the street I risk losing my license for a long time. Sure I can get away with a quick blast up to maybe 140-150 on my other bikes as I get there so quickly but I immediately have to let off as the risk becomes too great of a ticket.

The 2 most fun to bikes I have to ride on a daily basis both have about 100 HP and are more similar than I thought they would be; 890R and 2020 Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT. They both are parallel twins, have very good midrange power, good suspension, comfortable ergos and pretty quick though not superbike quick/fast. And with both of them, I didn't like their smaller motored variants. When I rode the 790, I wanted more power. I had the 1000cc version of the Africa Twin and always felt I needed/wanted a bit more punch. I bought the 1100cc version and now it so much better for me and it is actually quicker than my 890 in a 0-60 sprint.

If someone can pick up a 790 cheap, then it could be a great value. When I bought my 890, there wasn't a huge difference in price and when I factored in all the things I would need to do to make it close to the 890, it would have ended up costing a lot more money and I would have a bike with basically no warranty. I learned a long time ago it is better to spend the extra money up front to buy what I want, than to buy something and do a lot of mods to get it where I want. The exception to that rule for me is if I can do an ECU reflash and unlock a lot more power on my turbo cars or how you can easily bump up the power on the H2 Kawis.
Fair play, I'm half that weight 145lbs, bike is great for me, merry xmas
 
WavShrdr. Did you put springs on your 890 for your weight? I hate an undersprung bike. I’m 260.
I exchanged email with a WP service center in PA. that was recommended by WP USA.
I haven't yet but clearly need to. I maxed out the preload which makes it harsher than it should initially and seems best in about the middle rang of travel. At each extreme it isn't as good as it could be. For me it was far better than the 790 was stock, even with the preload maxed out on it.
 
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