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Recommendations on KTM 790 vs 890 Duke?

12K views 25 replies 12 participants last post by  Wavshrdr  
I love to ride and I don't care what I am on whether it is a motorscooter, my little teacup piston motorcycle or something more expensive. Price of the bike doesn't always equate to the enjoyment received. I buy what I like regardless of what other people think. But I am always willing to listen to their opinions about their bikes. While I liked the 790, when I rode it, I realized it would be underpowered for me and need an upgrade in suspension. Thoughtfully, KTM made those updates for me.
That's fine. I just don't see how anyone can call a 100bhp bike or thereabouts underpowered. Virtually stock 600cc Jap bikes are lapping the isle of man at just under 130mph, how is that not enough. I'm sure the 890 is a better bike but I'm happy with the 790 and won't be selling it for a few years. Happy riding regardless of what you are on. I generally have most fun on my Velocette Venom...
 
In simple terms, power to weight ratio. I am a pretty big guy. In riding gear I am probably at 300 pounds. When I am on my 890 it probably feels to me, like a lighter person does on a 790. I don't care about super high top speed. I have other bikes for that. I just wanted a bike that would have a lot of usable power and be quick in the speed ranges where I use it the most, 0-100mph. That is why I bought the 890 over the 1290. The 1290 only really starts to be much quicker for me when above about 80-90 mph. In that range my Z H2 is quicker than the 1290 so no point considering it.

I think about 100 HP makes for about the right amount of power for the street for 90% of the riding I do. I don't care about top speed much any more as the laws are such that if I exercise that capability on the street I risk losing my license for a long time. Sure I can get away with a quick blast up to maybe 140-150 on my other bikes as I get there so quickly but I immediately have to let off as the risk becomes too great of a ticket.

The 2 most fun to bikes I have to ride on a daily basis both have about 100 HP and are more similar than I thought they would be; 890R and 2020 Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT. They both are parallel twins, have very good midrange power, good suspension, comfortable ergos and pretty quick though not superbike quick/fast. And with both of them, I didn't like their smaller motored variants. When I rode the 790, I wanted more power. I had the 1000cc version of the Africa Twin and always felt I needed/wanted a bit more punch. I bought the 1100cc version and now it so much better for me and it is actually quicker than my 890 in a 0-60 sprint.

If someone can pick up a 790 cheap, then it could be a great value. When I bought my 890, there wasn't a huge difference in price and when I factored in all the things I would need to do to make it close to the 890, it would have ended up costing a lot more money and I would have a bike with basically no warranty. I learned a long time ago it is better to spend the extra money up front to buy what I want, than to buy something and do a lot of mods to get it where I want. The exception to that rule for me is if I can do an ECU reflash and unlock a lot more power on my turbo cars or how you can easily bump up the power on the H2 Kawis.
Fair play, I'm half that weight 145lbs, bike is great for me, merry xmas