Except we KNOW that COOBER messes with the timing. And imo (from observation of my COOBER'd bike) - without the stock ECU realizing.
And when Rottweiler uses the PCV to ONLY modify timing - they make gains too.
I was not able to see any diff on my engine with the coober on timing, but based on their info they calculate it more often then stock.
Also the reflash guys do not change anything on timing. Because if the engine hits a certain heat point, it drops down timing up to 7 degree. You can clearly see on dyno, even on can log
Waiting to see what MyJet nr Vienna announces. They have a kit ready from all accounts, but they (Engineer and wife) are on Holiday (until 19th Feb iirc). Simple old fashioned trial and error tuning using a Dyno.
The entire R&D process with failures and gains is on the German speaking site as we know.
No idea what is in the Kit - Almost certainly an airbox and lambda dongles. I am on their mail list for the announcement. I doubt I will do the conversion, but will be interesting to see.
I am following them to, but they did not made anything in last 2 years. there are some pictures and charts online but no serious results for now. I have seen they are developing on the old 001 ECU software. Most people have the 002 or 004, this was requested by some guys in the forum but no response.
ime - The COOBER is semi-adaptive. I say semi as the changes it makes in flight are not stable for a couple of 100kms. This was obvious when I whipped the dB killer out of the WINGS. I know "look forward" to it re-adapting as I have stuck the dB killer back in.
I love how the engine feels open - it feels sort of looser. But the noise is too much - in the city it makes policemen's heads turn. And I think a long run with it open would become tiring (even with earplugs in).
This works on my Akra muffler also. No idea how they do this. You can clearly feel the difference with dbk and without. On stock ecu there is no difference.
ime - The PCV with A/T is equally semi adaptive. I've been using it for the best part of 6 years on the Big Triumph.
imo - To really know what is possible - the best way would be ditch the Bosch ECU - get a bonafide race ECU (Like Megasquirt) and go for it. Cheap? - No!.
The biggest problem is, if you can not dissable the 02, A/T is useless, so you can only manage 6500rpm+ does not make sense at all.
Based on cober facebook posting, the Bosch does use fuel correction torque map.
This does make sense, so if the injector is out of the specific range, the bosch ecu simply goes down with torque.
My BMW s1000 did this also few years ago.
There are some French and German guys doing the 800cc cup. Few of them use dta ecu on their 790 Duke, seams to work fine with aftermarket dash, if you know how to wire.
Mega ECU i am not sure, defiantly not on quickshifter and other complex functions.
Not sure if it makes sense or not.
