A heat shield comes with the SW Motech rack. I too have the KTM rack and could see no way to attach the shield to it, even if the shield were available separately. Fabricating a shield that sits out in the open that would look OK is beyond my capabilities. I used sheet aluminum cut to match the profile of my topcase, painted it black to match and sandwiched it between the rack and the topcase mount. It's not perfect because it is farther from the exhaust, but it lowers the temperature of the topcase to just warm to touch.Is the muffler diverter part of the sear rack or the rear rack? If part of the seat rack I may buy it. I already have a KTM rear rack and in order to effectively use it I need to shield the exhaust at the end of the muffler. If Not part of the rear rack does anyone know of a separate shield?
So the SW luggage rack not SW seat rack, that's what I was afraid of. Wish I'd have bought it instead of the expensive KTM luggage rack now. I really want to do some touring on this bike because I love riding it so much but that muffler pointing up at the sky is really making it difficult for me to use my soft saddle bags and Drybag. I would consider KTM's expensive pannier kit if the mounts were quick removable but I don't believe they are. And I don't want all that hardware on the bike all the time.A heat shield comes with the SW Motech rack. I too have the KTM rack and could see no way to attach the shield to it, even if the shield were available separately. Fabricating a shield that sits out in the open that would look OK is beyond my capabilities......
What about adding a couple of strap "loop handles"? - Like Kayak carry Handles for example.My girlfriend is quiet tall and doesn't want to have to hunch over to reach the rack which would 'double' as a pillion grab handles. The Givi one - SR7708 - with it's 'angle iron' style plates set low compared to the pillion seat base and close to the exhaust is not looking like an option. Although it is a good price.
Im at the other end of the spectrum. Looking for a topcase and optionally a couple of side bags. I usually do a couple of weeks touring each year, ride often with a pillion and for next year im considering doing a bit of remote work on the road. Which means that I need a secure storage for a laptop and an action cam. Soft side bags are perfectly fine as I would only use them when traveling from A to B.Regarding the OP's question, I have trouble understanding his aversion to topcases. A topcase is quicker and easier to remove than just about any bag system, and it is very hard to argue that it looks worse than a bag and mounting straps flapping in the wind. Plus it's a bit more aerodynamic, lockable, waterproof and much easier to clean after a ride in the rain. Since the exhaust precludes useful saddlebags, the weight of your gear going to be up high and an empty topcase doesn't weigh much.
Chassis dynamics apart - bear in mind that the 790ADV has a tubular Steel rear subframe, And the Duke has a cast aluminium one. This affects where and how luggage can be affixed. Material strengths and design affect load capacity. Steel is more forgiving - If you overload it bends - Aluminum will crack.
- I am trying to figure out what is the difference between the rear suspension on the 790 Duke and the Adventure.
- Or at the very least - what is the maximum luggage load on the duke, including the topcase?
- How would an aftermarket shock affect the rear load capacity?
- Considering the 790 adventure can haul a ton of hard luggage, what enables it to do so? I guess a longer wheelbase / wider rake angle?
The Canadian KTM website no longer lists the weight limit for the topcase rack. My recollection is that it was quite low - approximately 12 kg. The SW Motech rack was about a kg lower and the H & B limits the topcase to 5 kg of contents. I suspect the issue is not the rack but the rear subframe. My previous sport-touring bike, an FJR, had a similar limitation and there were numerous reports on the forums of subframe cracks when the limit was exceeded.Anyway, I am very much in the market for hard luggage (topcase is a must) and I might end up adding a pair of soft side bags in the mix. Rear shock upgrade will come along, assuming it helps with stability due to the heavier rear.
Thanks for the insight, especially the part around the frame construction. This totally makes sense. And yea, 4-5kg is perfectly fine. I mostly need a hard case for the peace of mind when traveling and leaving my bike for an hour or two. Or dropping it like a muppet and breaking everything that is in the bag.Chassis dynamics apart - bear in mind that the 790ADV has a tubular Steel..
Most Topcase racks specify MAX load - it's usually not much more than 5KG static load.
Soft luggage (including soft top cases) will absorb some inertial shock (from bumps etc) so you can risk slightly more load. But all load out there on the rear rack is basically on a longish lever.
Yeah, im really unhappy with the limitations around the exhaust. After thinking about it again (this has been in planning for a year now), I will rather drop the saddle bags completely and put a bag on the passenger seat for touring. Almost sounds like the 790 Adventure is the bike for me :CI would ALWAYS choose side cases over a top case. But the issue for the 790D is the almost total lack of right hand side luggage frames. There are loads of side luggage frames for the 790ADV.
Interesting idea, I might ask around when grabbing my old bike from winter storage. Im also eyeing that ohlins/andreani upgrade, its probably not necessary but if this was about reasonable decisions I wouldn't be doing this to the duke in the first place.One option MIGHT be having a rear shock made up with a heavy load spring if the standard shock will not support both plus luggage. But it's a lot of money for 2 weeks. Are there any suspension guys near you - maybe they can just slot a slightly stiffer spring in.
I want to make sure that im reading this right. Do you mean that the topcase (excluding rack) and the contents should not go above 12kg? With a 6kg topcase this leaves < 6 kg for the contents, so lets say 5 (the limit on H&B). This would be enough in my case.The Canadian KTM website no longer lists the weight limit for the topcase rack. My recollection is that it was quite low - approximately 12 kg. The SW Motech rack was about a kg lower and the H & B limits the topcase to 5 kg of contents.
Its only meant for clothing (light) and action cam / SD cards / portable drive / USB hub, cables (expensive stuff). Oh and my laptop (1.3kg) if I can realize my dream of spending a week on the road and working remotely. The rest, including heavy stuff like tools can be in a bag on the passenger seat. If I add some extra padding at the bottom (laptop and all) this should fill up the rest of the space in the topcase and maybe help with the load a bit.Unless you plan to put a lot of very light stuff into the topcase, I doubt you will fill a 45l topcase without exceeding the limit.
Whenever a passenger is involved I will only carry extra clothes for a day or two max. Honestly, I never had to weight my clothes so I should probably do this in the morning as I have no idea how heavy stuff can get.However, if you need to carry a passenger plus a lot of baggage you might have the wrong bike.
Hey barbagris, thanks for the input I appreciate it. I thought about the Adventure a bit more, in the end I decided to get the duke. Actually yesterday I went to a dealership nearby and bought a 2020 Duke since it was reduced for the winter. Cant wait till I can pick it up in marchIf I were you - I'd go to a KTM dealer and bounce on the seats of both ADV and Duke. The ADV is not really bigger - the seat is higher, but that may not be an issue. There is an 890ADV next year too!.