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I’ll be having a pcv installed and custom mapped next week hopefully.
I had a woolwich flash done on a fireblade and it fried the ecu, unlucky maybe but it’s put me off ecu flashing.
I normally start in Rain and change to street once it is warm.
My ideal throttle map would be rain for the first 1/8 of throttle opening and then tighten it up.
Ok - took the plunge.
Took the 790 there today and it is so much better low down.
Can pootle around in street mode and also was able to cruise in 6th gear on the way back.
On the way there I only used 5th as in 6th, it tended to to feel rough and "off cam" so to speak.
So a definite recommend from me
BTW, I just took the map without a dyno run for £320
Took the 790 there today and it is so much better low down.
Can pootle around in street mode and also was able to cruise in 6th gear on the way back.
On the way there I only used 5th as in 6th, it tended to to feel rough and "off cam" so to speak.
So a definite recommend from me
BTW, I just took the map without a dyno run for £320
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So just so I understand, (as I'm new to this moto), you reflashed the ECU, or you added a Power Commander, or both? Thanks.Ok - took the plunge.
Took the 790 there today and it is so much better low down.
Can pootle around in street mode and also was able to cruise in 6th gear on the way back.
On the way there I only used 5th as in 6th, it tended to to feel rough and "off cam" so to speak.
So a definite recommend from me
BTW, I just took the map without a dyno run for £320
Just reflashed the ECU I think.
No added hardware.
Anyway, the bike runs heaps better low down.
No added hardware.
Anyway, the bike runs heaps better low down.
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Hi, new member here and my first post :smile:
- I'm Weeksy's mate and had mine remapped by Geoff at Hilltop last year, it was the first 790 they did.
The graph below was what I was given as the before and after, I rode in, rode out- It has a Wings can fitted, but engine-wise, other than that, completely stock, and when dynoed, had approx 1200 miles on it.
TBH, although my immediate thoughts were that it improved ride-ability in sport and track modes, and I can now happily use any of them on the road, I was slightly disappointed as apart from smoother low speed running I never felt any other tangible difference, and certainly not the shown mid range shove increase, which from what you see on the graph, I was expecting.
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Next time I see Weeksy and we're both on our 790s, we're doing proper swapsies and some roll-on tests, as although we swapped bikes a few weeks ago, I had to be somewhere quick so it was literally only 2 or 3 miles and not enough for either of us to notice any massive difference- will report back when we've done them.
- I'm Weeksy's mate and had mine remapped by Geoff at Hilltop last year, it was the first 790 they did.
The graph below was what I was given as the before and after, I rode in, rode out- It has a Wings can fitted, but engine-wise, other than that, completely stock, and when dynoed, had approx 1200 miles on it.
TBH, although my immediate thoughts were that it improved ride-ability in sport and track modes, and I can now happily use any of them on the road, I was slightly disappointed as apart from smoother low speed running I never felt any other tangible difference, and certainly not the shown mid range shove increase, which from what you see on the graph, I was expecting.
Next time I see Weeksy and we're both on our 790s, we're doing proper swapsies and some roll-on tests, as although we swapped bikes a few weeks ago, I had to be somewhere quick so it was literally only 2 or 3 miles and not enough for either of us to notice any massive difference- will report back when we've done them.
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As discussed on the other forum i’d recommend doing some reading on hilltop. Hundreds of happy customers but then lots of knowledgable people saying it bollox.
This is from the guy who runs another tuning company.
Oh and hi Trickydicky:smile:
This is from the guy who runs another tuning company.
That torque increase about 3k is huge, surely you should be able to feel such an increase if it’s legit?
Oh and hi Trickydicky:smile:
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Hiya Tricky..! Welcome to the forum. Nice to hear you already have mates here, now you just have more. :smile_big:
As Bomb mentioned, that's a pretty respectable increase down low.
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Cheers Bomble - hi to you too
I hadn't seen that and pretty much confirms things in my mind, I never got a satisfactory explanation as to why no A/F on my graph , and yeah agree RE the increase- I expected to feel it but didn't, so will be interesting to see how it looks on my local dyno
And I must admit I'd missed the fact that you had a 790 - is it in addition to the 701 or did the 790 replace it?
Hi Trickydicky, your friend weeksy seemed to be very happy with his 690 being reflashed by Hilltop, did you tested that 690?Cheers Bomble - hi to you too
I hadn't seen that and pretty much confirms things in my mind, I never got a satisfactory explanation as to why no A/F on my graph , and yeah agree RE the increase- I expected to feel it but didn't, so will be interesting to see how it looks on my local dyno
And I must admit I'd missed the fact that you had a 790 - is it in addition to the 701 or did the 790 replace it?
https://www.ktmforums.com/forums/duke/124566-direct-ecu-tuning-hilltop-motorcycles-uk.html
Nopes, he only got to test that pre-tune up at Donington. One of the other guys rode it at Pembrey later (who now has a 790 and on here) but he never rode it before the tune, so i was the only person who did both the before and after on it.
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Sadly the 701 had to go, super happy with the 790 though, such a fun bike to ride i don't miss the 701 at all:surprise:Cheers Bomble - hi to you too
I hadn't seen that and pretty much confirms things in my mind, I never got a satisfactory explanation as to why no A/F on my graph , and yeah agree RE the increase- I expected to feel it but didn't, so will be interesting to see how it looks on my local dyno
And I must admit I'd missed the fact that you had a 790 - is it in addition to the 701 or did the 790 replace it?
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So you actually lost power but gained 1 Nm at the top end.Hi, new member here and my first post :smile:
- I'm Weeksy's mate and had mine remapped by Geoff at Hilltop last year, it was the first 790 they did.
The graph below was what I was given as the before and after, I rode in, rode out- It has a Wings can fitted, but engine-wise, other than that, completely stock, and when dynoed, had approx 1200 miles on it.
TBH, although my immediate thoughts were that it improved ride-ability in sport and track modes, and I can now happily use any of them on the road, I was slightly disappointed as apart from smoother low speed running I never felt any other tangible difference, and certainly not the shown mid range shove increase, which from what you see on the graph, I was expecting.
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Next time I see Weeksy and we're both on our 790s, we're doing proper swapsies and some roll-on tests, as although we swapped bikes a few weeks ago, I had to be somewhere quick so it was literally only 2 or 3 miles and not enough for either of us to notice any massive difference- will report back when we've done them.
However the graph is showing some utterly insane gains in the bottom end.
If your engine is producing 18Nm at near 3000 rpm but then after a little tune is all of a sudden producing 67Nm you´re gonna feel that immediately.
At near 3000rpm he just increased the torque output by 272%. :grin:
Also interesting to nose how the temperature of the room went down a full two degrees between runs. Supposedly a controlled environment no?
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If this torque would be realistic, the engine would kill it self in 5min.
That’s strange mines making a little more torque and has lasted far more than 5 mins lol.
So what does your expert opinion say they’re making then?
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