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In California we can lane split. I was shocked when I noticed my 790 does not have hazard lights. Does anyone know how to make the current lights flash together? Hazard lights are used when splitting lanes to bring attention to your location.
 

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I've owned quite a few motos, only one, (my ZX-14R), had the flashers. I didn't think it was common for motos to have 'em, but then I've mainly only rode/owned sport bikes.
 

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If it is a thing at all, it must be a SF thing. I have never seen anyone using their flashers when lane splitting since I arrived in SoCal in 1989, and I haven’t seen it in my SF trips, either.
 

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Here in the uk I’ve seen bikes with their hazard lights on when filtering, I have no idea why when they are passing vehicles.
 

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If the 790 headlight is on (and it always is) - the blinkers will barely be visible.

On my way home yesterday (in the car) I had a scooter behind me riding erratically through the estates and pulled over because frankly I did not want to part of the accident waiting to happen - it passed and the Hazards were on. Invisible in rear view mirror.
 

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Thank you for all of your responses. However, the question was is there a way to modify the 790 to have hazard lights on since there is no switch? I understand everyone has their own perspective on hazard lights, but mine was just mechanical in nature.
 

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Thank you for all of your responses. However, the question was is there a way to modify the 790 to have hazard lights on since there is no switch? I understand everyone has their own perspective on hazard lights, but mine was just mechanical in nature.
JP . Sorry - but here goes. I think you will have issues.

The flasher relay in not a discrete item but forms (iirc) part of the instrument cluster and is programmed by the factory for bulb OR led. So I'll take a guess here that it detects load differences. I've not tried, but my guess is that to get Hazards, you'll need to wire a discrete load independant relay in as a replacement with all the corresponding switchgear. Doable but a serious PITA.

A simpler alternative would be to fit a second set of tiny but bright LEDS with a separate relay - easier and maybe more visible if you use bar-end blinkers.
 

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Barbagris,

Thank you so much for your response. I am not a computer or mechanic. Therefore, I think your second option is probably better. Has anyone put in bar-end blinkers before? If so, what brand? Thanks for the help again.

JP
 

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I vote second option as well. I don't think the blinker loop will engage if it sees much over 20 watts (2 bulbs). I was curious and added a load resistor (~9.5w) to the blinker circuit before swapping the two 10 watt bulbs to the LED's. The instrument cluster didn't react when the turn signal switch was engaged.
 

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Barbagris,

Thank you so much for your response. I am not a computer or mechanic. Therefore, I think your second option is probably better. Has anyone put in bar-end blinkers before? If so, what brand? Thanks for the help again.

JP
The German lads seem to be fond of the solution, historically.

If it were me I'd think strongly about KELLERMAN and MOTOGADGET. They know their countrymen. The Motogadget blinker relay might well fit inside the bars too. I've not tried on alloy bars ever.

Note this is NOT without some modifying to route wires through bars etc. And you'll lose the anti vibration weights. Here the Kellerman may give a slight advantage as they're steel.

https://motogadget.com/shop/en/m-blaze-disc.html
https://www.kellermann-online.com/en/products/bl-2000/48/bl-2000?c=166
 

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If you have the KTM alarm installed, then there is a function to switch the hazards on from the alarm keyfob with the engine running, just how you'll do it riding down the road remains to be seen but technically it is possible. Btw, if you don't have the alarm due to its ridiculous price it maybe worth knowing that the alarm is manufactured by an Italian company called Meta, the model is the Defcom T and is available in the UK for around £80, this includes the wiring loom that plugs directly into the KTM harness so is literally a 5 minute install. I snapped one up from eBay and bought the KTM mounting bracket to do a proper install, saved about £200, happy days!
 

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If you have the KTM alarm installed, then there is a function to switch the hazards on from the alarm keyfob with the engine running, just how you'll do it riding down the road remains to be seen but technically it is possible. Btw, if you don't have the alarm due to its ridiculous price it maybe worth knowing that the alarm is manufactured by an Italian company called Meta, the model is the Defcom T and is available in the UK for around £80, this includes the wiring loom that plugs directly into the KTM harness so is literally a 5 minute install. I snapped one up from eBay and bought the KTM mounting bracket to do a proper install, saved about £200, happy days!
Does it come with any decent wiring info. Maybe there is a way to get JUST the hazards!
 

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It does come with a wiring diagram but I think the hazard function is an inbuilt function of the alarm, as with most alarms it flashes all indicators when arming and disarming so it's the alarm powering the indicators as opposed to the bike. I guess there must be left and right turn positive feeds at the alarm multi pin connector under the seat so I guess it would be just a case of having a two pole flasher relay rigged up to the outputs and controlling it somehow from a conveniently mounted switch.

The alarm is supplied with a wiring loom which plugs into the back of the alarm, however this is not needed as the bike has a similar loom connector so just plugs directly into the alarm. There is also a connector on the bike to add the passenger seat reed switch, this is supplied with the KTM mounting bracket hardware. I checked with my KTM dealer and they confirmed adding the Meta alarm will not invalidate the warranty, whereas any modifications to the bikes loom will invalidate any electrical claims.

Personally for £80 odd quid I'd get the alarm and job done, albeit you may fall off when switching the hazard function on!

Hope this helps
 

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It does come with a wiring diagram but I think the hazard function is an inbuilt function of the alarm, as with most alarms it flashes all indicators when arming and disarming so it's the alarm powering the indicators as opposed to the bike. I guess there must be left and right turn positive feeds at the alarm multi pin connector under the seat so I guess it would be just a case of having a two pole flasher relay rigged up to the outputs and controlling it somehow from a conveniently mounted switch.
Any chance of a copy - pretty please??

Can't find Meta on sale here so far. I do not want an Alarm under the seat as I have other plans!.
 

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Here's a link to the diagram: -

http://www.abacuscaralarms.co.uk/manuals/Meta_def_com3_fitting.pdf

I'm at work now, but will look at the multiplug tonight and be able to tell you the pin positions for the indicator feeds, I seem to recall the wire colours in the meta loom aren't the same as the corresponding wires in the KTM loom but as long as you know the pin positions it should be easy enough to see which is the indicator feeds.

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Here's a pic of the meta loom, so the indicators feeds are the top row pins 5 & 6, all you need to do is look at the identical KTM loom under the seat and pins 5 & 6 (different colours) will be what you are after to tap into. I've attached a pic of the Meta alarm installed with the KTM bracket, just in case you want to see how much space it takes.

Please bear in mind mine is a UK bike, I assume all markets are pre-wired for the factory alarm?

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Here's a pic of the meta loom, so the indicators feeds are the top row pins 5 & 6, all you need to do is look at the identical KTM loom under the seat and pins 5 & 6 (different colours) will be what you are after to tap into. I've attached a pic of the Meta alarm installed with the KTM bracket, just in case you want to see how much space it takes.

Please bear in mind mine is a UK bike, I assume all markets are pre-wired for the factory alarm?

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Interesting - thanks. The bracket is neat too.

Mine is prewired.
 
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