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I'm on my 4th Bell now - this one is the Race Star with MIPS tech and some other schmancy things that are supposed to keep my soft matter all intact should I boink my head onto something hard.

Love Bells - the interior's are amazing - they breathe well, and the newer Gen's like this one have the larger eye-port so for racing or TD's you can see clearly out of the top now (previous Gen's were too low when in a tuck, I'd literally have my left hand pushing the helmet up on the straights so I could see where the **** I was going, less than ideal for aerodynamics LOL).
Shield change mechanism is flawless, visors are top quality, and all-around value for your Dollar/Rand/Pound/Peso/Euro is second to none IMO - they sell for literally 1/2 - 2/3 the cost of other's like Arai, AGV, or Shoei and offer as much or more in features and safety.
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I'm on my 4th Bell now - this one is the Race Star with MIPS tech and some other schmancy things that are supposed to keep my soft matter all intact should I boink my head onto something hard.

Love Bells - the interior's are amazing - they breathe well, and the newer Gen's like this one have the larger eye-port so for racing or TD's you can see clearly out of the top now (previous Gen's were too low when in a tuck, I'd literally have my left hand pushing the helmet up on the straights so I could see where the **** I was going, less than ideal for aerodynamics LOL).
Shield change mechanism is flawless, visors are top quality, and all-around value for your Dollar/Rand/Pound/Peso/Euro is second to none IMO - they sell for literally 1/2 - 2/3 the cost of other's like Arai, AGV, or Shoei and offer as much or more in features and safety.
Well, they can sell for 1/2 to 2/3 cost. I just looked at their site and they have quite a few in the same price range as Arai/Shoei. So the question is... what are you giving up at the lower price point?

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Well, they can sell for 1/2 to 2/3 cost. I just looked at their site and they have quite a few in the same price range as Arai/Shoei. So the question is... what are you giving up at the lower price point?
I checked the busiest online seller in the US that carry all three Brands - Bell, Arai, and Shoei to see what full MSRP is on their top spec race helmets, here's the prices:

Shoei X-14 - $889
Bell Race Star - $779
Arai Corsair X - $979

Looks like MSRP shows the Bell is roughly 25% less than the Arai - not quite the discount I mentioned obviously.

The Bell has the following features:

Bell Flex Impact Liner, 3K Carbon Fiber Shell, Virus Jade Interior, Magnefusion Removable Cheek pads and the Panovision Class 1 Optics ProTint Photochromatic Shield.

Safety ratings are a grey area as most just list them as pass or fail and not best to worst.

Back to pricing, I see the savings differences as much more substantial for closeouts on previous year models with Bell than with Arai or Shoei - on the same website a closeout Arai is $579 and the same Bell Star is $399 - over a 40% savings.

Arai and Shoei are similar to brands like Sidi boots, Oakley sunglasses, etc.. where they have very strict online discounting policies - they never allow retailers to advertise super low prices unless given pre-authorization.

As always with Helmets, my recommendation for people is to try it on in person, leave it on for a while if possible - 10-15 minutes, and buy something you feel comfortable with, not something you think looks cool, your Hero #46 wears, or is heavily discounted and you're on a budget but isn't the right size or head shape.
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My RF1200 finally arrived (thanks rail blockade) so it's break-in time. It's very snug with the smaller shell but I feel way less like a bobble-head than the Hornet. It should be much nicer on the road!
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This is mine, AGV K3-SV "Pop"

Flip down sun visor, pin lock, speaker hols. Loads of vents. Warm in winter, cool in summer. I love it.
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I checked the busiest online seller in the US that carry all three Brands - Bell, Arai, and Shoei to see what full MSRP is on their top spec race helmets, here's the prices:

Shoei X-14 - $889
Bell Race Star - $779
Arai Corsair X - $979

Looks like MSRP shows the Bell is roughly 25% less than the Arai - not quite the discount I mentioned obviously.

The Bell has the following features:

Bell Flex Impact Liner, 3K Carbon Fiber Shell, Virus Jade Interior, Magnefusion Removable Cheek pads and the Panovision Class 1 Optics ProTint Photochromatic Shield.

Safety ratings are a grey area as most just list them as pass or fail and not best to worst.

Back to pricing, I see the savings differences as much more substantial for closeouts on previous year models with Bell than with Arai or Shoei - on the same website a closeout Arai is $579 and the same Bell Star is $399 - over a 40% savings.

Arai and Shoei are similar to brands like Sidi boots, Oakley sunglasses, etc.. where they have very strict online discounting policies - they never allow retailers to advertise super low prices unless given pre-authorization.

As always with Helmets, my recommendation for people is to try it on in person, leave it on for a while if possible - 10-15 minutes, and buy something you feel comfortable with, not something you think looks cool, your Hero #46 wears, or is heavily discounted and you're on a budget but isn't the right size or head shape.
I find the deals on the Bell Race Star are getting harder to find, but if you search you can still find them. I'm on my 3rd... crashed 2 of them last year Picked the first up for $360, the next was $470 (I was in a hurry) and this ugly one was $379. I love these helmets on the track, not as much for street riding. I have a 6 year old Komoto that I will be replacing this year for street riding.

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I find the deals on the Bell Race Star are getting harder to find, but if you search you can still find them. I'm on my 3rd... crashed 2 of them last year Picked the first up for $360, the next was $470 (I was in a hurry) and this ugly one was $379. I love these helmets on the track, not as much for street riding. I have a 6 year old Komoto that I will be replacing this year for street riding.

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I'm in the market for a new helmet soon, interested to hear why you don't like the Bell Race Star on the street?

Also, anyone know which standards are more strict ? Snell or ECE ?

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I'm in the market for a new helmet soon, interested to hear why you don't like the Bell Race Star on the street?

Also, anyone know which standards are more strict ? Snell or ECE ?
The Race Star isn't a bad street helmet, I wore my first one on the street for a year. That said, it is bigger than many helmets (due to all the extra layers for safety they put in it). The extra vision for it is cut for someone in a tuck position, and I think they fixed it with the new ones, but there weren't speaker pockets in the race stars, and I like to have my Bluetooth com unit on when riding with friends on the street... I did put speakers in mine the year I used it on the track, but the speakers would hurt from rubbing my ears if I was on a ride more than 1.5 hours. I don't have ears that stick out, but I do wear my helmets really tight. Edit: I should state that the Bell Star Flex Dlx does say it has speaker pockets.

With all that, it is an awesome helmet, and with the research I have done, I feel it is the safest on the market. I have crashed 2 of them... and not even a headache from either impact.


As for Snell or ECE, that is a huge debate and I don't know if there is a right answer. I prefer Snell and if my daughter is on my bike with me, she will always have a Snell helmet on. I feel that if tracks require them, its the way to go... however some research I have read suggests that the slightly softer helmet of the ECE is better in all but the worst accidents. I think you need to do some research and decide what you believe on that one.

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