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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-16-2019, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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Radar Detector/ request for assistance

Hi All I know there's a load of talent in this forum so I'll ask for if anyone can offer a suggestion as to what may going on =

I have an Escort radar detector hard wired to the bike with an Escort supplied direct wire cord. I also use and have for many years without issue the HARD System - for those that might not know its a "heads up" display sent to an eye piece in your helmet from a transmitter thats plugged into the detector and the wired cord is plugged into the transmitter.

I've used this system for years and it it has worked flawlessly and saved me scores of tickets.

So here's my dilemma. When I plug the Escort detector into the transmitter and the transmitter is plugged into the bikes wired cord there is no power delivered to either device. When I remove the transmitter from the equation the Escort detector is powered up properly, but no power obviously to the eye piece via the transmitter. - At first I figured there is an issue with the transmitter - no, not so simple -

To test everything I used the cigarette lighter plug Escort supplied, in my car, plugged into both the transmitter and detector and it worked fine. Meaning it sent a signal to the eye piece as its supposed to.

Anyone that might have a suggestion would be most appreciated - A final comment - I've used this set up on other bikes namely my 1290 Super Duke R and my 990 Super duke in years past and it worked flawlessly - I/m wondering if there could possibly some kind of electrical conflict with the 790 as I know things on this bike are operated through the ECU and on board computer. I know I/m grasping at straws. Thanks in advance - Any suggestions will be most appreciated.

Heres the link to the HARD System - https://legalspeeding.com/HARD-System.htm#.XQbDzy3MzOQ


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Hi Steve,

I can't help you with your issue as I haven't bothered to install my Escort system on the 790 and probably won't bother. Like you, I've used the Escort for several years and it's certainly paid for itself in warnings from either mobile microwave radar operated by the Highway Patrol in NZ or by plain clothes (mufti) camera vans parked by the roadside. A friend uses the HARD system and it works well apart from when he leaves it switched on and drains the battery . I went for a hard-wired "screamer" which emits a noise similar to a domestic smoke detector. It can also be muted or switched off. Theoretically at least, the brain responds more quickly to an audible signal than a visual one but I don't know how significant the difference is. Mine is gathering dust in the shed and will probably continue to do so!

Good luck with your issue - it doesn't sound like a problem involving the ECU or computer.
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Geoff thanks for the reply - I spoke with Aaron the owner of Legal Speeding that manufacturers the HARD System - He's a great guy and has been very available to assist in diagnosing the issue - we've come to the conclusion that it something with the hard wired power cord - We know its wired correctly but its not sending power through the transmitter to the detector -

So, a long shot is to cut the RJ11 connector off the Escort power cord and replace it with a new one - long shot yes but thats the sum total of what we can figure - everything's been wired correctly - the transmitter works fine in my car with the Smart Cord from escort (cigarettes lighter cord )

Frustrating as **** - Aaron's at a loss also - Its one of the those Murphy's Law things - so **** frustrating
Not a first world problem true but I've grown to feel more comfortable riding with the system fully operational
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Hey Geoff who makes the "screamer" ? I/m ready to try anything to avoid tickets - I HATE TO GET TICKETS -

I/ve used a wired speaker into the helmet but its a pain - I continually got off the bike with the wire stuck in my helmet and more ugly stories
of dealing with the speaker wire -
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Hey Geoff who makes the "screamer" ? I/m ready to try anything to avoid tickets - I HATE TO GET TICKETS -

I/ve used a wired speaker into the helmet but its a pain - I continually got off the bike with the wire stuck in my helmet and more ugly stories
of dealing with the speaker wire -
Hi Steve,

Haha! Yep, I had a speaker wired to my helmet originally and was constantly stepping away from the bike without unplugging it, or accidentally unplugging it on the move. That's what forced me to buy the screamer. If you look at this old post on my blog, you'll see a photo of it mounted on the top yoke of my Blackbird. I had it tucked away out of sight near the headstock on my Street Triple. Confessions of an Ageing Motorcyclist: Radar Detectors - worth having? .

I bought the screamer from the US, so it will be easy for you to get one. Here's the link: Radar Screamer . Hope that's of help.

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I have an escort Red Line, and have a bluetooth sender plugged into its 3.5mm jack, and in my helmet (GTAir) i have a Senna 10U. It has great volume, the senna 10U is purposely made for the GTAir, and the GTAir2 comes with a built in senna unit if you get that model. I wear ear plugs and can easily hear the radar. I don't like led signals for the radar signal, to easy to ignore, i prefer sound in or close to my ear. You have to get the right sender unit in bluetooth (Low Latency 4.1 or 5.1)
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I have an escort Red Line, and have a bluetooth sender plugged into its 3.5mm jack, and in my helmet (GTAir) i have a Senna 10U. It has great volume, the senna 10U is purposely made for the GTAir, and the GTAir2 comes with a built in senna unit if you get that model. I wear ear plugs and can easily hear the radar. I don't like led signals for the radar signal, to easy to ignore, i prefer sound in or close to my ear. You have to get the right sender unit in bluetooth (Low Latency 4.1 or 5.1)
Good info Dave! I have the Sena SMH 10 on my GT Air. I mainly use it for bike to bike coaching. Never listen to music and only occasionally have it bluetoothed to my phone. Social riding is my quiet time and I don't like interruptions . Agree with you regarding ear plugs. Conversations using my custom plugs are much clearer than without because the high frequency wind noise is removed.

Even though I probably won't fit the detector on the 790, I might have a static play with bluetooth and the detector to see if I can pick up the signals.
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Tao Tronics BlueTooth Transmitter Receiver Wireless 3.5mm Audio Adapter aptx, Low Latency 4.1 is the one I'm using. Charges up with the same plug and cable as the Senna.
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Hi

Does the bluetooth transmitter with radar detector allow you to listen to music on a Cardo packtalk?

Thank you for any information.
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Does the bluetooth transmitter with radar detector allow you to listen to music on a Cardo packtalk?

Thank you for any information.
My Senna has a radio, but i never listen to music while riding, but I'm not sure about your Cardo pactalk. With the senna you can make one priority over the other, so if listening to music and the radar picks up a signal and the bluetooth sender sends to senna unit, it interrupts the music and plays the radar signal, you can also have you phone priority over music if it rings. I don't answer phone while riding tho, I've gone to the senna solely for my radar signal.
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