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Traditional Ohlins or "KTM approved" WP Apex Pro?

I'm pulled between the full Ohlins setup and the full WP Apex Pro setup.

Ohlins has the known tradition, quality, reliability.
WP is somewhat specified on KTM and probably had a good amount of testing on the 790.

I tend to go towards Ohlins, but it would be arround 500€ more (Components + install) compared to the WP.

Tough decision.. :/

What are your experiences with the WP Apex Pro?

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Buy a shock with ride height adjustability neither ohlins or wp offer this.
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Buy a shock with ride height adjustability neither ohlins or wp offer this.
I had a PENSKE shock on an R6 that I raced for a few years. That was a QUALITY product; built from scratch to suit my weight and riding conditions, and it cost less than OHLINS.
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IMO buy what is supported by your local shop. I was going to go with Öhlins but I don’t have a local dealer to talk with and build a relationship with to make sure it all works right. I went with the WP Pro setup as the shop I use has extensive knowledge with their kits.

All said and done you can’t go wrong with either though as long as it is setup RIGHT.

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I had a PENSKE shock on an R6 that I raced for a few years. That was a QUALITY product; built from scratch to suit my weight and riding conditions, and it cost less than OHLINS.
I agree there’s better alternatives for less money than Ohlins
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IMO buy what is supported by your local shop.
This is the real key.

If you really want to get things set up for you, there is no replacement for a local place with expertise that understands marque "X".

My local place makes their own suspension units as well as maintaining other stuff. https://www.dmxsuspension.es/instalaciones.php?a=2 - And they do a mass of KTM offroaders. They usually have at least two bikes up on the benches. - They even have their own off road circuit for testing.

At the time they had no solutions for the R3 - but were happy to take on the Maxtons.

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I'm pulled between the full Ohlins setup and the full WP Apex Pro setup.

Ohlins has the known tradition, quality, reliability.
WP is somewhat specified on KTM and probably had a good amount of testing on the 790.

I tend to go towards Ohlins, but it would be arround 500€ more (Components + install) compared to the WP.

Tough decision.. :/

What are your experiences with the WP Apex Pro?
Both will be more orientated to track valving set up, i went for a Nitron shock as my local Ohlins tech shop sells both, he recommended the Nitron over the Ohlins. He said Nitron out of the box are brilliant, where as the Ohlins may need valving to suit road riding. He also recommended a Matris fork kit. I got the Matris, but found their lightest stock springs are too firm for my weight, so he has had to fit lighter Racetec springs and alter the valving to suit. But the Nitron shock is amazingly good, with good noticable adjustment. You would have to go to TTX to get close.
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My local place makes their own suspension units as well as maintaining other stuff.
Hmmm - Called them and they said - "Come on Down - we've not done a 790 yet!" The plus (here) is that they will look almost stock.

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I'm pulled between the full Ohlins setup and the full WP Apex Pro setup.

Ohlins has the known tradition, quality, reliability.
WP is somewhat specified on KTM and probably had a good amount of testing on the 790.

I tend to go towards Ohlins, but it would be arround 500€ more (Components + install) compared to the WP.

Tough decision.. 😕

What are your experiences with the WP Apex Pro?
Both will be more orientated to track valving set up, i went for a Nitron shock as my local Ohlins tech shop sells both, he recommended the Nitron over the Ohlins. He said Nitron out of the box are brilliant, where as the Ohlins may need valving to suit road riding. He also recommended a Matris fork kit. I got the Matris, but found their lightest stock springs are too firm for my weight, so he has had to fit lighter Racetec springs and alter the valving to suit. But the Nitron shock is amazingly good, with good noticable adjustment. You would have to go to TTX to get close.
There internal adjustments on the WPs that are set on install to gear the suspension to suit track, street or a mix. Just had this call with my shop to figure out what it should be geared for.

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Hmmm - Called them and they said - "Come on Down - we've not done a 790 yet!" The plus (here) is that they will look almost stock.

Rising rate springs, I'm not a fan, soft and plush then hard through the stroke, thats why i changed out my 790s suspension.
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