790 DUKE manufacturing moving to China in 2020 - 2018 KTM 790 Duke Forum
 9Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-26-2019, 11:57 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Glenntropy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Cali
Posts: 9
790 DUKE manufacturing moving to China in 2020

I've been watching for this since the KTM/CFMOTO partnership was announced, and it looks like it's finally happening. I picked up my 790 in Sept because I would rather have an Austrian built bike, and the rumors of the move were out there. The plant opens in June 2020. Maybe I'm a little paranoid, but I wanted to avoid the first generation of bikes coming out of a new Chinese factory.
https://www.webbikeworld.com/ktm-and...o-join-forces/
Glenntropy is offline  
post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-27-2019, 02:44 AM
J D

Eye In The Sky

 
J D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Isle of Long
Posts: 151,090
Garage
What if the manufacturing is held to an even higher standard in china?


Forum Admin.
J D is offline  
post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-27-2019, 03:18 AM
Member
 
magoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Land of Oz
Posts: 39
It’s practically impossible to buy nothing made in PRC but l always source bigger purchases made in other countries when l can
J D likes this.
magoo is online now  
post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-27-2019, 09:58 AM
Road to Victory
 
barbagris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: On the edge of insanity.
Posts: 578
Garage
European ones will continue to be made in Europe.

Small steps - Day by Day.
barbagris is offline  
post #5 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-27-2019, 11:32 AM
J D

Eye In The Sky

 
J D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Isle of Long
Posts: 151,090
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by barbagris View Post
European ones will continue to be made in Europe.
Does that mean that the European populace will receive models only produced in Europe?

Personally not a fan of the saturation of Chinese products, (here in the USA), but their quality standards for higher-end products have definitely improved greatly.

Forum Admin.
J D is offline  
post #6 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-27-2019, 01:37 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: East Tennessee, USA
Posts: 60
Personally, I would not consider for a moment buying a motorcycle manufactured in China. In my experience, Chinese products are made to be disposable. I've not found anything made there that I would consider high quality. I've recently done quite a bit of renovation on a home, and became appalled that so many items simply are not available from anywhere but China. Absolutely would not buy a motorcycle made in China.
L8-apex is online now  
post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-28-2019, 04:36 AM
Road to Victory
 
barbagris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: On the edge of insanity.
Posts: 578
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by J D View Post
Does that mean that the European populace will receive models only produced in Europe?.
From what I read a while back when KTM announced the deal - The deal with China was to help supply the growing Asian sector. And let's be clear here the growth market is Asia. Shipping wise it makes sense to use China to supply the PacRim.

ime of Chinese mfr - the issue is not the fabrication but the QC. QC is what pushes prices up as it is usually HUMAN based. I remember reading that 1 in 4 Mercedes fails to pass QC the first time.

Thing is that folk want cheap stuff so many importers etc simply do not do their own QC. I've a contact on the optics industry that has everything made in China - but has his own employees in there doing QC. Almost no customer issues. Yes his stuff costs more than pure Chinese imports made in the same factory.

Bear in mind that Europe is not that big. And for the huge majority there is now no real customs (Brexit may change things for the UK guys).
Stephano likes this.

Small steps - Day by Day.
barbagris is offline  
post #8 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-29-2019, 01:14 AM
Senior Member
 
dj790duke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 152
Garage
Ehh the Austrians let a lot slip by as far as QC is concerned. Screw it, let China take a crack at it lol.

2019 KTM 790 Duke
dj790duke is offline  
post #9 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-29-2019, 01:28 AM
J D

Eye In The Sky

 
J D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Isle of Long
Posts: 151,090
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by dj790duke View Post
Ehh the Austrians let a lot slip by as far as QC is concerned. Screw it, let China take a crack at it lol.

dma likes this.

Forum Admin.
J D is offline  
post #10 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-29-2019, 09:46 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: France
Posts: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by barbagris View Post
From what I read a while back when KTM announced the deal - The deal with China was to help supply the growing Asian sector. And let's be clear here the growth market is Asia. Shipping wise it makes sense to use China to supply the PacRim.

ime of Chinese mfr - the issue is not the fabrication but the QC. QC is what pushes prices up as it is usually HUMAN based. I remember reading that 1 in 4 Mercedes fails to pass QC the first time.

Thing is that folk want cheap stuff so many importers etc simply do not do their own QC. I've a contact on the optics industry that has everything made in China - but has his own employees in there doing QC. Almost no customer issues. Yes his stuff costs more than pure Chinese imports made in the same factory.

Bear in mind that Europe is not that big. And for the huge majority there is now no real customs (Brexit may change things for the UK guys).

Spoke with KTM Dealer, they were told by KTM, only V2 and the single (Enduro, MC) are going to be made in Austria.
The CFmoto/KTM factory is way higher standard, then the one at HQ. Fun fact, the fail rate on 790 made in austria is actually the highest of all KTM bikes. Lets hope they move quicker to PRC
tango1 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2020+ KTM 890 Duke R First Look J D 2020+ KTM 890 Duke R 4 02-02-2020 12:01 AM
First Look: 2020 790 Duke J D 2018+ KTM 790 Duke News 0 11-17-2019 01:11 PM
2020 KTM Super Duke R = Beast Mode J D Other Bikes Discussion 4 11-05-2019 11:32 PM
2018 KTM 790 Duke Overview Administrator 2018+ KTM 790 Duke News 3 07-19-2018 02:51 PM
How The Middleweight Duke 790 Ranks Overall Administrator 2018+ KTM 790 Duke News 0 07-19-2018 02:28 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome